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    i already watched it to make sure it doesn't glorify it because it was dropped by us. It doesn't seem like it. It's not real life footage except for maybe 3 seconds of it. But it has some accurate information on it.

    Things you should know:

    2 bombs were dropped

    The US dropped all sorts of notes warning people of a mass weapon attack (which the Japanese leaders made it illegal to read them)

    After dropping the first bomb we asked them to surrender. They didn't believe we had a second weapon of mass destruction.

    After we dropped the second, we bluffed that we had a third one. Which then Japan finally surrendered.

    The bomb did in fact explode in the air, making it far more devastating.

    3 atomic bombs were made total, the first was dropped in secret on US soil to make sure it actually worked. Far from any civilization.

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    This is a great video.

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    great video we use to talk about this in class a lot

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    The point of dropping bombs was useless.

    It is a Japanese custom not to surrender until the last man. The military generals were still ready to continue the war and if it wasn't for the Emperor who surrendered (more than likely to not to face war crimes), the Japs would've retaliate.

    Btw, this wasn't the reason why the Japanese actually ended World War 2. After Soviet Union finished of Germany and Italy, their sightes were set on Japan. Due to the proximity, location and the manpower of the Soviets compared to the Japanese they knew they couldn't fight a war on both sides (a note taken from Hitler's and Nazi Germany's Downfall).

    Also, the notes dropped prior to the bombing were useless since barely any Japanese knew English. It was only after the '60s did English actually got taught in Japan.

    Mind that, what I find pathetic is why the losers in wars are handed the "War Crimes". They aren't the ones bombing cities with 80K+ people, leading to the death and destructions of many future generations later (radiation of these bombs affect the Japanese to this day) whilst the American generals and bombers are hailed as heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baktiar View Post
    The point of dropping bombs was useless.

    It is a Japanese custom not to surrender until the last man. The military generals were still ready to continue the war and if it wasn't for the Emperor who surrendered (more than likely to not to face war crimes), the Japs would've retaliate.

    Btw, this wasn't the reason why the Japanese actually ended World War 2. After Soviet Union finished of Germany and Italy, their sightes were set on Japan. Due to the proximity, location and the manpower of the Soviets compared to the Japanese they knew they couldn't fight a war on both sides (a note taken from Hitler's and Nazi Germany's Downfall).

    Also, the notes dropped prior to the bombing were useless since barely any Japanese knew English. It was only after the '60s did English actually got taught in Japan.

    Mind that, what I find pathetic is why the losers in wars are handed the "War Crimes". They aren't the ones bombing cities with 80K+ people, leading to the death and destructions of many future generations later (radiation of these bombs affect the Japanese to this day) whilst the American generals and bombers are hailed as heroes.
    Your right, and it makes you think after some of the shit the U.S does not hear about, why our Presidents are never to be thought of charged with war crimes. Kinda BS. And to anyone who doesn't believe me, one time in your life exit the US and watch the news and see how much shit is filtered.

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    I did find this:
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...ambitions.html

    Which supports some of what baktiar said. But how can we be sure the notes weren't written in Japanese? We did have a machine that could accurately translate Japanese to English, I don't see why it wouldn't work the other way around.

    My intentions weren't actually focused on the war itself but more on the destruction of the bomb, which I now realize I didn't clarify in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baktiar View Post
    The point of dropping bombs was useless.

    It is a Japanese custom not to surrender until the last man. The military generals were still ready to continue the war and if it wasn't for the Emperor who surrendered (more than likely to not to face war crimes), the Japs would've retaliate.

    Btw, this wasn't the reason why the Japanese actually ended World War 2. After Soviet Union finished of Germany and Italy, their sightes were set on Japan. Due to the proximity, location and the manpower of the Soviets compared to the Japanese they knew they couldn't fight a war on both sides (a note taken from Hitler's and Nazi Germany's Downfall).

    Also, the notes dropped prior to the bombing were useless since barely any Japanese knew English. It was only after the '60s did English actually got taught in Japan.

    Mind that, what I find pathetic is why the losers in wars are handed the "War Crimes". They aren't the ones bombing cities with 80K+ people, leading to the death and destructions of many future generations later (radiation of these bombs affect the Japanese to this day) whilst the American generals and bombers are hailed as heroes.

    There was also a small detail that gets overlooked on a vast majority of sources , America had decoded the japanese messages and it was understood that japan would surrender from the war in the summer of 1945 .The main reasons as to why they was on the brink of surrender was due to the failed attempts at creating a nuclear weapon & the lack of resources , After Manila was taken , It essentially cut off all supplies into japan from southeast asia.
    Many have written that the bomb's were dropped as a show of force towards the USSR , However , It is impossible to say with absolute certainty one way or the other in the debate of whether the atomic bomb should have been dropped, or whether the Japanese would have surrendered without its use.

    Personally i think it was abit of both scenarios , Many wanted the war to stop and it could be said that the dropping of these bombs shortened the war by many years , Others will disagree as to how long the war would have carried on .
    Secondly , If japan had managed to create a nuke or make a substantial attack on mainland U.S.A , The power vacuum that could have been created would have been epic .

    Either way you look at this , Many hundreds of thousands of innocent people died or are still living with the effects to this very day & it should be used as a stark reminder as to why this should never happen again .

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