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    If you're going to call yourself a coder/programmer (there's a difference), then please, have some self respect. What I mean is don't go releasing any old program you make. I've been doing Java and Minecraft for months now, and I'm just now approaching my first few releases. Why? Not because I'm a slow learner or because I take a while to make things, but because I don't release everything I make. There's no point in releasing the equivalent of a Hello World with some customization every day; it doesn't give you a good image. It is fantastic if you are experimenting; really, it is great. Experimentation is how you learn the best. However, just because you make something, doesn't mean you have to release it.

    Respect yourself as a programmer/coder and release stuff that you put time and effort into. You don't see graphics artists (for the most part) spending a few minutes making something and then releasing it; they put time and effort into their art, they add personality and substance. Make something that you're proud of. If you're proud of your hello world, that's fantastic, but that doesn't mean you need to hold a "release" thread every time you redesign it. Put your time and effort in; if you don't spend ages debugging, researching, brainstorming, etc. your program, then (and this is just my personal opinion), you didn't learn anything. Challenge yourself.

    I started coding one of my projects, a plugin for a Minecraft server, with no idea of how to make plugins, and in all honesty I didn't think I had any chance of actually completing this project. But I took one night, poured in a few hours of work/research, and suddenly it was done. And you know what? I'll never forget the stuff I learned while doing it, and I'll never lose the confidence that completing that code gave me. You don't get that when you spend a few minutes throwing some basic statements together. /rant

    Speaking of which (/blatant advertising), wabam: http://www.codeleakers.com/showthrea...lugin-WallJump <-First almost-release.

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    Thank you for bringing this up. Some people were not sticking to their job.

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    Congrats man!

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    lol i knew someone was going to bring this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattking45 View Post
    Thank you for bringing this up. Some people were not sticking to their job.


    Job? This isn't about the "coder" usergroup.

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    What Jew is saying is completely right.
    I have a feeling this was said cause of the program I put up last night than Ryan followed.

    Something you guys really gotta understand is this. I consider Jew a programmer because he puts time into his programs and makes them good. He doesn't release crappy stuff. He spends more than 30 minutes doing something. He looks into it. He learns and expands his knowledge. Then works on it.
    That is what makes him a programmer in my eyes.

    Now to coding. You are not a coder if you are making RAM dump codes or doing basic crap with a USB Gecko. You are a coder when you start learning ASM and all that and putting it to use.

    Now please don't think I don't consider myself a programmer. Because I do. Just cause I make some BS program every once and a while doesn't mean I'm not working on stuff in the background. Remember HaxCraft Launcher? Well. I've put hours of research into that to make sure I patch up security holes. But I'm still expanding my knowledge and slowly getting more advanced. Have you seen my C# tutorial on my forum? I'm slowly writing more and more making the tutorial bigger and better.
    Because I am learning, researching, and putting what I know to use, I consider myself a programmer.

    If you just stick to basics and pretty much stuff I did in YouBot, then I won't consider you a programmer.

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    I have been exploring more of C++, and working on Plugins and also trying out C#. I finally was able to do this coding with the new computer, I knmow what you mean, I make simple vb programs that I don't release because it doesn't really benefit others, but it helps me out when I am bored.

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    If I may add something on, if your program does something in a NEW unique way, or loads files through a system you wrote, or something like that, by all means go ahead. That's cool as shit bro. But that doesn't mean we want to see your Hello World that's actually 28 strings mashed together.

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