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    Default IRS Declares War on Bitcoin.

    The announcement this week that the IRS will now be treating Bitcoin as property not currency has serious legal implications for anyone who has used it over the past few years.

    On March 25th, 2014 the IRS issued a unilateral edict which instantly put the entire U.S. Bitcoin community in a legal quandary. They're calling it "Virtual Currency Guidance".


    The new rules designate all crypto-currencies as property, not currency, and state that any increase in value between the date of acquisition and the date of sale counts as capital gains and is taxable. All payments using Bitcoin are subject to the same reporting requirements as normal payments, and Bitcoin mining is also now considered taxable income. Oh, and by the way, these new rules and penalties apply retroactively.


    If you run now to grovel at their feet they may be willing to reduce those penalties somewhat if you can convince them that you had a good reason for not reading their mind in the future:


    A-16: Taxpayers may be subject to penalties for failure to comply with tax laws. For example, underpayments attributable to virtual currency transactions may be subject to penalties, such as accuracy-related penalties under section 6662. In addition, failure to timely or correctly report virtual currency transactions when required to do so may be subject to information reporting penalties under section 6721 and 6722. However, penalty relief may be available to taxpayers and persons required to file an information return who are able to establish that the underpayment or failure to properly file information returns is due to reasonable cause.

    In one fell swoop the U.S. government has placed the entire U.S. Bitcoin community in a precarious legal position. Much of the allure of the currency lies in the fact that it has been widely viewed as a way to bypass government restrictions and to challenge the current monetary system. Up until this point this currency rebellion didn't carry any risk (outside of the obvious price volatility). Now, however, those who have bought, sold or mined Bitcoin since 2009 have a choice: either attempt to go back and trace every single transaction and corresponding price in U.S. dollars, or go rogue and hope for the best.


    Considering the libertarian leanings of the Bitcoin community, it's unlikely that many will comply. The real question is whether this will push people to keep Bitcoin gains from touching their traditional bank accounts, or whether they will reduce their interaction with the currency.


    The decision to apply these rules retroactively may have another unintended consequence. Given the massive undertaking that retroactive bookkeeping would entail, many Bitcoin users are very likely to make a conscious decision to not obey. For many, this could very well be the first time that they defy the taxman, and once their status is irregular it becomes much more likely that they will stay irregular.


    For those of you who had chosen another form of currency resistance (precious metals), don't be so quick to snicker and say "I told you so". These rules set precedent that may very well be applied to gold and silver in the near future (and retroactively).
    http://scgnews.com/the-irs-just-decl...-retroactively

    Greedy fucking cunts have to squeeze a penny out of anything anywhere they can. Fuck them, pathetic power hungry cunts. Damn bastards never fail to infuriate me with their dragonshit laws and dickass moves.

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    There's a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.

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    This is the stupidest thing they could have done besides doing what China did only yesterday. This is fucking retarded beyond belief.

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    IRS shouldn't be allowed to get money from anybody until they pay back the money the blew on their vacations.

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    Who said freedom was free.

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    That's contradictory. It's not freedom if one has to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0zzy View Post
    Land of the free
    And home of the brave.

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    That's contradictory. It's not freedom if one has to pay for it.
    Well, if you think about it. True/Full freedom is anarchy because there would be no rules. We have a limited freedom; however how much it is limited is up to our government. We are free to say what we wish about our president, but we are not free to threaten our president publicly (or privately technically).

    Back on topic. This is pretty ridiculous....this is why we hate the IRS.

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    Greedy bastards, they just money any way they can get it.

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    Ok everyone, just make sure you pay your taxes whilst buying narcotics on silk road.

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    The funny thing is, is that it's like they're trying to censor the internet. I find it amusing that they are trying this hard, and I'm going to laugh when shit comes down.

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